Titled "On the Trail of Pope Joan," an ABC promo says, "Diane Sawyer takes you on the trail of a passionate mystery. Just as intriguing as 'The Da Vinci Code.' Chasing down centuries-old clues hidden even inside the Vatican. Could a woman disguised as a man have been pope? Thursday night. One astonishing Primetime."
Lots of interesting posts - but this one is the most disturbing:
When I worked for Priests for Life in the Public Outreach department, this woman (Mary Therese Helmueller) contacted us and asked for Fr. Frank's help in removing Sr. Julie. Obviously this was something outside of Fr. Frank's work or care and he asked me to call her and let her know that our work was exclusively pro-life work.
She was hardly an easy woman to talk to. The documents she produced (copies of personal letters marked confidential between her, the CDF, and Archbishops Montalvo and Burke) suggested only that she should allow Bishop Burke and Rome to deal with this. Obviously this was not enough for her, and she began to take the case publicly.
The facts as I understood them are that this man had a rather wild history which resulted in a sex change operation and further misery leading him to suicide attempts and eventually a profound conversion in Christ. He had been living as a woman for many years and after his conversion had no illusions that he was actually a man, but sex change operations are not reversible and would have been a continued mutilation to his body. He chose to continue to live a private life of penance and prayer, which led him to the Franciscan Sisters. Why they accepted him to the order is beyond me, but they did so in consultation with Archbishop Burke who wrote to Rome asking for consulatation on this matter. He proceeded in prudence and it took Rome (not surprisingly) 6 years to come out with a Statement ultimately saying that individuals having had a sex change should not be admitted into orders of their opposite gender. Now, whether Rome asked Sr. Julie (and possibly others like her) to leave their orders, I do not know.
I am not quite sure what to make about all of it, but this Mary Therese Helmueller is, in my opinion, not someone I would give much credence to. I do not think Sr. Julie will ever be able to take perpetual vows, but I do not know if that will necessarily prohibit her from living as a third order franciscan within this community.
Can you beat that?
So typical of the louses who continue to build a culture of protecting evil.
With all due respect to Fr. Pavone - and I understand where he is coming from - what in the Name of Christ does his employee have in saying what isn't credible is the poor woman who found the tranvestite and took it all the way to Rome with no answer.
Of course she is upset. She has been every which way trying to expose the fraud of it all... not to mention the sexual dangers of it all.
If the man can hoodwink them into the idea that he has converted when he still is wearing the pants and calling herself a man - - one of the most preposterous stories of malfeasance I've heard since Paul Shanley.
On October 4, 1997 Bishop Raymond L. Burke elevated the order and was going to hear the final vows of Sr. Julie Green (Joel Green) on November 23, 2003. The concerned parishioner sent copies of all papers that had been collected on Sister Julie to various authorities in Rome, but received no reply. Finally, the parishioner went to Rome and only when publicity was given to the case, was any action taken by the Church
The woman had to get on the plane and stand in front of the Vatican and make a jack ass out of herself to get the press to make a story in the newspapers which would humiliate them - and only then - - did they respond.
Does anyone actually, on any side of anything, believe that there was some kind of a change in the material cooperation with rapes of children?
Not after what I know in Boston.
According to the Arlington Catholic Herald dated January 23, 2003 an article by John Norton of Catholic News Service, "After years of study, the Vatican's doctrinal congregation has sent Church leaders a confidential document concluding that "sex-change" procedures do not change a person's gender in the eyes of the Church."
They put Inspector Clousseau on the case and after years of studying - he came up with the answer.
Saints preserve us!
Good think for people who are not credible, that's I have to say. If it weren't for people whom diocescan employees slander and dismiss to remain vigilant - - Diane Sawyer could have a daily show and we'd all be glued to the boob tube every night.
Who knows what Archbishop Burke was told. Perhaps Fr. Pavone's employee got to him and told him not to believe.
I'm telling you - it's something else!!
I liked this post:
I am a seminarian for the Archdiocese of Saint Louis, so I might be able to clear the muddy waters a bit. Since the arrival of our new shepherd, the clergy is actually more unified than before. A few fringe priests are getting their feathers ruffled by someone actually taking a firm position, and asking the Catholic population to be people of integrity. The Riverfront Times is a paper with the general reputation as being unworthy to line a bird-cage. Two years previous, they did a slam article on Cardinal Rigali, saying he was banished from Rome, and would rot in St. Louis for the rest of his days....the crystal ball must have been on the blink that morning!!!